I hear this all the time

I work in a restaurant/sports bar type atmosphere, and all the servers say the same thang: they hate waiting on black people! Mainly since, as they say, black people are far less likely to tip.

Note that I've heard the same from others about Asian people also. Just not in the severity that I have about blacks.

I'm not a waitress, I just fill in when i have to...so i don't have the same type of experience as some of the others, but they all say..and it's about 15 muhfuckas, that black people are the worst to wait on. Okay, I was waitressing the other night and I had about 4 dudes from Louisiana (BTW, love the accent), and one guy got mad because I made him pay for his shot of Tequila. He tried to skip out on it, saying "just ring me up for a tea". Like, because we both black, I can let you get that. Hell, naw! Then he got mad and walked out because I made him pay for it. WTF? So I got like a dollar from the whole table. And that's coming from the guy who only ordered juice.

One of my co-workers said that he believes that the problem is that black people will find any little thing to complain about, in order to NOT leave a tip. In other words, they just don't want to have to spend money.

I have noticed that you can give some fucked up service, and white people will still leave you a tip. It's like they can forgive you for so many things before they just say, "eff it! I'm not tipping". If what my co-workers say is true, then I'm glad that they don't have to rely on black people to make their money, since blacks don't come in as much as whites.

Maybe that sounded kinda harsh. Again, I don't have much experience with this, I'm just going by what they say, as they will actually avoid a black table, and/or fight with others about taking it.

Has anybody else had this experience? waitressing, being waited on, etc?

What are ya'lls thoughts?

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I'm not a waitress, but one of my biggest pet peeves is people who don't tip. If it's black folks generally who don't tip...I don't know, maybe we have less money? I always think tipping is part of going out. I'm pretty reluctant to just not leaving a tip at all. And I don't neglect to leave a tip if I don't like the food (like some do), because the waitress/waiter didn't make it, so why punish her/him. I think people don't think of/care that many people live off their tips; I think they figure the cost of the dinner is high enough. I don't think people should avoid black customers, but should try to give really good service. Taking forever to take my order, forgetting my napkins, screwing up my order, and neglecting to fill my water glass are not ways to get a big tip. Some folks may not tip if the service is just ho-hum.

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This didn't happen to me, but to a friend of mine. He's a waiter and from what I hear a pretty good one. Had a bunch of people come in I think like 5 or 6, they all ordered drinks, and dinners and were there for a few hours and he was making sure that everything was going good for them since it was a larger group and figured he'ed get a good tip out of it... Well then the bill came they paid for it on credit card and left him a 1¢ tip... They rounded there bill from like 89.99 to 90.00 or something like that... And if I remember right, they were white... I don't think not tipping is a black thing, I think it's just the individual people that decide "I can't afford to tip her" or "The service sucked and the food was cold I'm not tipping!".

I have had it where a waitress really screwed things up for me and for another table also. It was at a steak house, and I had ordered a steak which came out well done when I ordered it medium rare, so I sent it back (Can't handle it well done to dry) took like, 30 minutes to get my new steak out. and they weren't terribablly busy, same thing happened to the other table, so we got a manager told him our stories, and ended up getting our food for free and we still left a tip (Only cause my sister in law who was eating with us worked as a waitress though honestilly...) But that's my experience.

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I don't tip well but thats because I'm broke. I figure if I spend 10 bucks on my meal and you get 1 - 2 and some change you're doing ok. If I ever get to a point where I have a real job that might change. I'm generally patient with wait people but if there are more than 1 or 2 things wrong with your skill or your attitude... that cuts from the 2 dollar tip. If you're outstanding and made my "dining experience" a joy then I'll bump it up.

I have only not left any tip once or twice. Once the waitress ignored our table for a good 45 minutes... before she had even taken our drink order. Food took forever to come out and when it did it had obviously been sitting for a while. She was supposed to show us the dessert tray or we got free dessert and when we pointed that out to her she got an attitude like "are you really going to make me do that". So she brings out the dessert (free) and my ice cream was quite obviously freezer burned to the point where even if all she did was pick it up she should have noticed. So I very politely pointed it out to her and let her know that I didn't want another one. She gave me more attitude. So she ran our cards and when I got my little paper slip I went to sign it and noticed that my card had been declined. If my mama hadn't raised me with some morality I would have just walked out at that point and left her with the bill (since it's obvious she hadn't bothered to check) but I called her over again and showed it to her and explained that my friend had gone to withdraw some cash and would be right back and asked to speak to her manager. That got me more attitude. she didn't get a tip.

Statistically (personal statistics) it is my black friends and family that are more likely to get pissed at something I consider minor and not leave a tip. Also since I live in a college town bad tips here are more a result of students in general being bad tippers than race.

Okay sparklyn, 1-2 is not bad for me. When I waitress, I appreciate the $1-2, although I really welcome the $5-20, $20 happens a lot when people are drinking, so I continue to get 'em liquored up...naw I'm just playing.

but it's good to hear ya'lls experiences. I'm only going by what my co-workers have said, and most of them are black, and HATE to take a black table. When I do go out and eat, I always leave a tip. $2 at least, my manager says that he always leaves $6 or more since he knows that people live off of their tips

Plus, if we're short handed, i always tell them before hand that it may take me a while to get to them, and if they don't mind fine, if they do...oh well, we got 4 doors, exit is an option. Plus sometimes we have problems with cooks, which I know how to do, so i will get behind there myself.

Anyway, i have heard this all across the board, that black people don't tip, or don't like to tip, complain too much etc...again, i don't really know as I don't have much experience, but i am hearing it too much

For me if the service sucks, you might get a dollar and some change..but I also take into consideration amount of tables.. how many folks in my party..time of day..

Usually though, if I have it, I'll leave a $5 sometimes more or less..it's all on the waiter and her/his personality.

At the nail shop, they are hooking my shit up, plus come on...they are feet! So I usually tip $6-8..most times, since they know I tip..I never have to sit and wait for service..which is fine with me.

The way I figure after a hard day you should at least have made enough to get a nickle bag and a drank or something..at the least bus money to get home and back to work to do it all again.

I just hate when it's a large party (I will admit, most often with my black friends) no one thinks of leaving the tip...everybody just wants to throw a $20 on the table...I'm the one like..uh no...drink $8.00, meal &15..and tip..can I get a $10 from you too homie?


I will say my white friends are quick to put down more than enough money..or one person will decide to foot the whole bill on their credit card...depends on who's in the crowd..but even the broke grad students will tip...

"I will say my white friends are quick to put down more than enough money"

co-signing. i honestly cant say i have a ready-made reason for it, but it does seem like it pains us to leave generous tips. i know i'm generalizing here, but im thinking i may have something to do with our tendency to only spend money on shit that fulfills an immediate personal relief (the clothes, rent money, and cars argument vs investing, working towards homeownership, etc, etc). with tipping, i guess for some of us the prevailing thought is "i already ate my food. why spend money on something that isnt going to affect my personally and immediately". again, i'm generalizing, but it does seem to be true.

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I have been tipped VERY well by Blacks and Asians alike. I get the LEAST tips from the Latinos in my area.


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Edited 1 times. Last edit at 09/17/05 02:40AM by prettimimi.

what about 15% already being included in your check? i know there have been times when, if i hadn't really scrutinized my check that i wouldn't have realized that i was already paying a gratuity, on top of what i was planning on leaving on the table. usually the menu will say, ''including gratuity''but sometimes, you overlook it. i know it's not that way in a lot of places, but it has happened to me in some. if the wait staff is just won't snap, then ask if they split tips with the rest of the house. i always leave enough to at least tip the bus people if nothing else. i figure, even if the wait staff was lousy, the bus people didn't have anything to do with that. and THOSE are some of the hardest working people in the business! and and i will talk to a manager in a heartbeat. i'm a firm believer in letting someone know when i get good service. but if it's crappy, you're gonna hear from me too.

and i also wanted to say that when i worked in vegas, if you were left a tip, say, some bills (or poker chips, which happened frequently!) and you were also left one penny on top of the tip, it was considered a high compliment. it meant that your service was better than good.

in any business, most customers will be assholes, especially the restaurant business. I've worked at a chinese restaurant for only 1 day and quit. not because of customers, but my boss. His wife took her stress out on me, so i let her have it.

60% of the customers that came in that day were assholes. Why? because they were prejudice. i wouldn't fret bout these people cuz u know, we're prejudice in some way too. nobody is perfect.
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I'll have to remember the penny thing VC. My friends fuss at me when I leave small change as part of my tip but i'm like.. pennies = cash... it all adds up. Why should it matter if I leave you 50 cents in dimes or nickels or peanuts? it's 50 cents.

Only I would never do it with dimes because I keep those unless absolutely neccesary. (different story... in fact....)

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I think its a just a stereotype. I mean I was never the type to tip back in the day. But as I get older and experience quote unquote The finer thing in life. I've learned to tip and to tip very handosomely when u get exceptional service.

I went out last night to Applebee's ( I know finer things in life LOL). No but the bill came up to $42 I was ready to tip our waitress $10. But my freind told me wait I think she put her tip in there already. I was offended to see she already put a charge of $7 on the bill. I think she thought I wasn't going to tip her and thats y she did that. That offended me. The funny thing is my tip was more than she charged me. I dunno I would like to think it wasn't cuz I was black.

My homeboy works in the entertainment industry he has stories all the time of how cheap some of those people are. I mean balla balla types big names u see on T.V.,movies, videos or names u just know. Some of them have actually tipped him a $1. LOL.

I think it boils down to that persons generosity, their status and how sophisticated they are not their race.

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Tha blacks in Providence tip.........All you gotta do is be cute and friendly.
They may not tip as much as others but they tip!

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